Is a door(patio) considered to be a structural part of a house or a fixture?

Homeowners Assoc claims we are making a structural change by replacing the patio doors. Are they correct?

Answers:
a door itself is not a structural part of the house. The header, king studs, and jack studs are the structural part of the house. If you took the door out completely the house would still stand. It would look awful stupid but structurally the house is the same.

Other answers:
Structural. A fixture is something like a light or an awning.
Structural. A fixture is something like a light or an awning.
The door in your house leading out to your patio is not a fixture, it is a structural part of the house. However, this does not mean that the Homeowner's Association is correct. You need to read the language of your policy to verify what they consider to be structural changes.
yes you are changing the building itself
I don't think it matters what the technical definition is. If the Homeowners assoc thinks it a structural part then it is. You need to understand what their real objection is to the change you are making and look for a compromise.

If we knew more about what kind of change you are making to the patio door it would help.
In my opinion, which doesn't count for much, if you are replacing old doors with new ones it is not a structural change. To me a structural change would be something like removing the patio doors and installing windows. Basically anything that changes the original design of the house. I have always hated the way home owners associations put limits on what you can do with your own home. I was looking to buy a house one time, and this is no lie, the association restricted the type of curtains you could have.
YES,IT'S PART OF THE STRUCTURE,BUT YOU MUST READ THE HOMEOWNERS COVENANTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN LEGALLY STOP YOU,
It is not a structural part of the house. It is an axes way. It has no load bearing to it so it can not be structural. I'm not sure where you live, but get in contact with your city planing department and they can answer any question you might have concerning structural or non-structural requirements.
First of all you need to check with the local zoning/permit authority. In most instances, replacement of a door should definitely not need a permit.

The change may not conform with association guidelines, in that they want conformity, sameness. I'll assume you have or can get a copy of their specifics regarding aesthetics etc.

rev. steven

By the way, don't bother arguing semantics with the association, but do learn what they define as structure and fixture
Absolutely part of the structure.
It may sound ridiculous, but they are right. It is in fact structural.
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